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You're going to do WHAT to that Fiat X1/9??


Yes, I am converting it into an electric commuter vehicle. Many people I talk to about electric cars (my own little crusade) haven't even given the idea a thought, being so accustomed to the gasoline norm, and babble their first thoughts about the subject at me.

Here is a list of questions (or comments) that I have received when someone first realizes that I might be serious.

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Index of questions (with answers) on this page.

You're doing WHAT to that fiat?
But why?
Aren't they inconvenient?
So what kind of batteries will that take?
What about the lead in the batteries?
Can you charge them as you go?
What makes you think you know so much?
Are you going to have power stuff?
What's this gonna cost, anyway?
Geez, you're strange.
OK, where do I read about electric cars in general?

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[Q] Let's face it. Fiats are not known for reliability or longevity. In fact, they rust badly and break down often. So why go and do a hair-brained thing like convert a 1980 X1/9 in mediocre condition to electric??

[A1] The gasoline engine in this car, in a word, stinks. Remove it and you will remove about 80 percent of the reasons a Fiat can leave you walking.

[A2] Cost. I paid the grand sum of $400 for this car (without a transmission). I can drive it now, still in gas mode, for less than $1000 total spent. A car with a higher "fun/dollar" ratio would be hard to find.

[A3] I like it. 'Nuff said.

[Q] But why convert it to electric? Don't electric cars go like 35 MPH tops?
[A1] No. They will keep up with traffic in every state except Montana, thank you. This car will top out above 70 MPH when finished, if other cars using the same equipment are any indication.

[A2] They cost approximately the same to operate as a gasoline car, when everything is factored in. This includes the cost of:

[A3] Environment. Say all you want about zero-emissions vehicles being really deferred emission vehicles (because electric utility plants pollute), but even with that figured in, this car will operate 10 times cleaner when converted to electric.


[Q] But don't you have to charge them every night, and then they only go like 50 miles per charge?
[A] Yep, daily charging is required, along with a few special concerns on a weekly basis. However, I spend more time and brain-power on the task of making coffee in the morning than I ever will on charging an electric car. And no more smelly fumes at the local gas-n-go!

Range will be limited in the Fiat, but that's not really an issue to me. I plan to be able to get 50 solid highway miles on a charge, and maximize speed and acceleration. Mine will be primarily a commuter car. I live about 8 miles from where I work, and with going home for lunch, I will drive about 32 miles a day. If we need to go on a road trip, we have a truck. :)

Generally, range in electric cars is improving with time. GM's first production electric car, EV One, is rumored to be able to go 90 miles on a charge. Some cars with experimental (and expensive) battery packs have gone over 200 miles on a charge.

[Q] How many and what kind of batteries are you going to use in this thing?
[A] I plan to use 10 deep-cycle 12 volt batteries for a total of 120 volts DC. I have heard of people using the dinky marine batteries available from any discount store. I have also heard of those batteries failing within the first year. Also, I need something to hold a little more "juice" than is available with the el-cheapo marine batteries. Here's a spec sheet on batteries from Trojan Battery Company designed for the purpose.
[Q] Wasn't there some study that said the lead-acid batteries in electric cars were worse than leaded gasoline?
[A] Yes, and the news media jumped all over it. However, the media haven't been so kind to the numerous articles evaluating the validity of the numbers used in the study (rather, the lack of validity). Here is a link to more precise information on why that study was flawed (courtesy EcoElectric).

Consider this: None of the lead in leaded gasoline was ever recycled. Up to 98% of scrap lead-acid batteries are recycled today (with 98% of the battery by weight being re-used, according to Trojan Battery Company), and that number will only go up. When buying a lead-acid battery at the Wal-Mart without a trade-in battery, they charge you an additional $10 (times 10 for my battery pack = $100... I'm going to recycle). Get the picture?

[Q] Can you put a generator or alternator on the unpowered wheels and charge up the batteries as you go down the road?
[A] No. And I have really been asked this. Think about it - generators turn mechanical energy into electrical energy. Motors turn electrical energy into mechanical energy. No electrical/mechanical conversion system is 100% efficient. Driving a generator with a motor will NEVER create more energy than is put into the system - but will waste a certain amount of energy as heat.
[Q] What makes you think you know so much about electric cars?
[A] What I know I have gleaned from the Electric Vehicles Internet mailing list. I really know nothing compared to some of these folks. Contributors to the list include people who drive electric cars daily for their commute and people who convert or build electric cars as a business (mostly in CA and AZ).

To subscribe to the mailing list (about 20-30 messages daily) send mail to LISTSERV@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU. In the body of the message, put the single line "subscribe ev your name" replacing "your name" with your actual name and omitting the quote marks, of course. Send the message from the email address that you want to use to receive and contribute to the list.

[Q] What about power steering and brakes and air conditioning? Don't they use mechanical energy from the gasoline engine?
[A] Well, that's one reason I selected a Fiat - reasonable steering without power assist, breaks that have never seen a vacuum booster, and a top that comes off in lieu of air conditioning. However, people commonly convert small to mid-size sedans with power brakes provided with the help of a vacuum pump that runs off the aux battery, and power steering can be implemented the same way as with a gasoline car - using the engine to turn a hydraulic pump for the steering system. Air conditioning compressors can be run from the electric engine also, but the car has to be designed to handle the additional load while still getting you to work and back.
[Q] So, about how much is it going to cost to convert it to electric?
[A] Well, I figure that if I don't charge myself for labor, I can do a pretty decent job of converting it for $6000 or so. Needless to say, this project will take a while, since I don't have that kind of dough sitting around just waiting for the next project to come along.
[Q] Geez! You're kinda weird!
[A] Maybe. But to believe in something and not practice it is a common form of hypocrisy, and I am in a position now to start practicing something I believe in, namely, alternative practices that don't destroy the Earth at quite the alarming rate as the "normal" American way of life. <soap-box> It's a shame, IMHO, that public policy and public opinion can be molded so easily by those with deep pockets. Ah, well, them's the breaks in a society based on greed.</soap-box>
[Q] Yeah, whatever. Where can I read more about electric cars?
[A] I've moved my EV related links to a seperate page; click here to go there. Interesting stuff.

Here are some more detailed plans for what I am going to do to this car.

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